Bench Test Procedure for a 785G Off-Highway Truck Transmission {3030, 3073} Caterpillar


Bench Test Procedure for a 785G Off-Highway Truck Transmission {3030, 3073}

Usage:

785G RTL
Off-Highway Truck/Tractor
785G (S/N: RTL1-UP)

Introduction

Table 1
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This special instruction contains the necessary information that is required to bench test a specific transmission arrangement. Refer to Table 2 for the correct arrangements. Bench testing the transmission ensures correct assembly and operation of the component. Rotating a transmission provides the most conclusive evaluation. Testing allows the dealer to ensure that the transmission will operate properly in the machine. The specifications in this guideline are specific to bench testing the component. Every effort has been made to provide the most current information that is known to Caterpillar. Continuing improvement and advancement of product design might have caused changes to your product which are not included in this publication. This guideline must be used with the latest technical information that is available from Caterpillar.

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Table 2
Machine Model  Transmission Arrangement 
785G  476-8745 

Canceled Part Numbers and Replaced Part Numbers

This document may include canceled part numbers and replaced part numbers. Use NPR on SIS for information about canceled part numbers and replaced part numbers. NPR will provide the current part numbers for replaced parts.

Important Safety Information



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The hazards are identified by the “Safety Alert Symbol” which is followed by a “Signal Word” such as “DANGER”, “WARNING, or” “CAUTION”. The “WARNING” Safety Alert Symbol is shown in illustration below.



Illustration 2g00008666

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The information, the specifications, and the illustrations that exist in this guideline are based on information which was available at the time of publication. The specifications, torques, pressures, measurements, adjustments, illustrations, and other items can change at any time. These changes can affect the service that is given to the product. Obtain the complete, most current information before you start any job. Caterpillar dealers can supply the most current information.

Collecting the Test Data

Since conditions vary for each test bench, use the data that is collected from your test bench. The collected data is used to compare test results. The data should be collected and maintained by the operator.

Data from each transmission arrangement is collected and stored. Averages from each transmission arrangement are often used to compare values on portions of transmission tests. Always compare data that is collected from the same transmission arrangement that is being tested. Averages for the last 20 transmission arrangements should be maintained.

------ WARNING! ------

Personal injury or death can result from escaping fluid under pressure.

Escaping fluid under pressure, even a very small pin-hole size leak, can penetrate body tissue and cause serious injury and possible death. If fluid is injected into your skin, it must be treated immediately by a doctor familiar with this type of injury.

Always use a board or cardboard when checking for a leak.


------ WARNING! ------

Hot oil and components can cause personal injury.

Do not allow hot oil or components to contact skin.


------ WARNING! ------

Personal injury or death can result from not following the proper procedures.

To avoid the possibility of injury or death, follow the established procedure.


Tools Needed

Note: Pressures will be sensitive to tooling setup. The diameter of the hose, the diameter of a fitting, and extra filtering can affect pressure. The required tools that are listed in Table 3 were used to develop this test procedure.

Table 3
Required Tools 
Tool  Part Number  Part Description  Qty 
439-5592(1)  Rail As. 
1U-9584 Rail As 
1U-9585 Mounting Block Gp 
1U-9586 Swivel Head Support Gp 
1U-9722  Load Binder As 
395-1098 Lifting Eye Assembly 
1U-8847  Adapter Plate 
253-9037 Bolt 
1U-9131(2)  Drive Adapter (KEY) 
1U-9359(3)  Drive Adapter 
1U-5935  Plate As 
5P-8248 Hard Washer 
2J-3506 Full Nut 
1A-8063 Bolt 
1U-5999  Spindle Gp 
8B-7997 Bolt 
3B-4508 Lockwasher 
1U-8654 Adapter (SPLINED) 
1P-4579  Half Flange 
1U-8301 Fitting 
9U-7446 Adapter 
6V-3965 Fitting 
8C-9024 Fitting As 
3E-6910 Bolt 
1P-4579  Half Flange 
1U-8301 Fitting 
9U-7446 Adapter 
6V-3965 Fitting 
8C-9024 Fitting As 
7X-2436 Bolt 
5P-8245 Hard Washer 
1U-9873  4 Bolt Flange 
5S-2389 Bolt 
352-4340 O-Ring Seal 
141-2502 Reducer Bushing 
8C-9024 Fitting As 
523-9431  Wiring Harness 
306-0397 Extension Cable 
277-2362  Transmission Analyzer Gp 
N(4)  4C-9910  Portable Hydraulic Tester 
P(4)  8T-0855  Pressure Gauge (0 TO 4,000-KPA (0 TO 580-PSI)) 
6V-4144 Quick Connect Coupler 
Q(4)  8T-0854  Pressure Gauge (0 TO 965-KPA (0 TO 140-PSI)) 
6V-4144 Quick Connect Coupler 
(1) Use if test bed is flush with floor
(2) For use with the small drive shaft
(3) For use with the large drive shaft
(4) Optional Tooling if needed with Test Bench

Installation Procedure



    Illustration 3g06200774

  1. Install Tooling (A) to the test stand.


    Illustration 4g06200782

  2. Use a hoist to install transmission onto Tooling (A). The weight of the transmission is approximately 2268 kg (5000 lb).


    Illustration 5g06200783

  3. Install Tooling (B) to prevent movement of the transmission during test.

    Note: Over-tightening Tooling (B) can jeopardize the tightening ability of the castle nuts on Tooling (A) later in this section.



    Illustration 6g06200789

  4. Install Tooling (C) to the input end of the transmission.


    Illustration 7g06200794

  5. Install Tooling (D) to Tooling (C).

  6. Align the transmission with the input drive shaft.


    Illustration 8g06200796

  7. Connect the input drive shaft to Tooling (D).


    Illustration 9g06200800

  8. Close and latch drive shaft guard.


    Illustration 10g06200819

  9. Tighten all four castle nuts and jack bolts.

  10. Re-tighten Tooling (B).


    Illustration 11g06200802

  11. Remove Plate (1).


    Illustration 12g06200810

  12. Install Tooling (F) to the output end of the transmission.


    Illustration 13g06200817

  13. Install Tooling (G) onto Tooling (F).


    Illustration 14g06200826
    Controls (in)

  14. Install Tooling (H) to the transmission.


    Illustration 15g06200832
    Controls (out)

  15. Install Tooling (J) to the transmission.


    Illustration 16g06200835
    Lube (in)

  16. Install Tooling (K) to the transmission.


    Illustration 17g06200838
    Controls (in)

  17. Connect Hose Assembly (2) from the pressurized Flowmeter to Tooling (H).


    Illustration 18g06200842
    Controls (out)

  18. Connect Hose Assembly (3) from Tooling (J) to Flowmeter 1 (in).


    Illustration 19g06200847
    Lube (in)

  19. Connect Hose Assembly (4) from Flowmeter 1 (out) to Tooling (K).


    Illustration 20g06200853
    Lube Pressure

  20. Connect a Pressure Gauge to Pressure Tap (5).


    Illustration 21g06200864
    (6) Controls (out) Pressure
    (7) Main Relief Pressure
    (8) Clutch 4 Pressure
    (9) Clutch 5 Pressure
    (10) Clutch 6 Pressure
    (11) Clutch 2 Pressure
    (12) Clutch 3 Pressure
    (13) Clutch 1 Pressure

  21. Connect Pressure Gauges to Pressure Taps (6-13).


    Illustration 22g06200875
    Spindle Lube

  22. Connect Hose Assembly (14) to Tooling (G).


    Illustration 23g06200897

  23. Install Tooling (L) to the transmission.


    Illustration 24g06200894

  24. Connect Tooling (L) to a suitable location.


    Illustration 25g06200899

  25. Connect Tooling (L) to Tooling (M). Refer to Tool Operating Manual , NEHS0996 for the correct operating instructions.

Test Procedure

TA3 Navigation

  1. Select "Off-Highway Truck".

  2. Select "785G".

Harness Test

  1. Make sure Tooling (L) is properly connected.

  2. Use Tooling (M) to perform the harness test.

  3. Record the values in Table 6.

    Note: Do not continue testing until Harness Test passes.

Start Check

Note: Due to high torque during the shifting of this transmission, reduce input speed to 400 rpm before shifting into any gear. Re-tighten chains and binders after first shift and monitor during the test.

  1. If you are using SAE 10W oil, warm the oil to 50 °C (125 °F). If you are using Mobil DTE11 oil, warm the oil to 34 °C (95 °F). Maintain this temperature during the test.

  2. Set the input flow to 151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm).


    Illustration 26g02720621

  3. With the transmission in the NEUTRAL position, rotate the input shaft in a counterclockwise direction. Adjust the input rotation to 700 ± 20 rpm.

  4. The lube pressure should be minimum 14 kPa (2 psi).

    Note: If there is no lube pressure after 30 seconds, stop the test and verify test stand and transmission connections.

  5. Shift the transmission through all gears to eliminate air from the transmission controls.

  6. Confirm the correct clutch engagement with Table 4.

    Table 4
    Clutch Engagement Check 
    Gear  CL 1  CL 2  CL 3  CL 4  CL 5  CL 6 
    N      X       
    R  X          X 
    F1  X        X   
    F2    X      X   
    F3  X      X     
    F4    X    X     
    F5  X    X       
    F6    X  X       

Low Idle Check

Note: Due to high torque during the shifting of this transmission, reduce input speed to 400 rpm before shifting into any gear. Re-tighten chains and binders after first shift and monitor during the test.

  1. With the transmission in neutral position, set input flow to 151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm).

  2. Adjust input rotation to 700 ± 20 rpm.

  3. Record Clutch Pressures, Lube Pressure, Main Relief Pressure, Controls (out) Pressure, Lube Flow, and Horse Power Loss in Table 8.

  4. Confirm values with Table 7.

  5. Reduce input rotation to 400 ± 20 rpm.

  6. Shift the transmission to Forward 1.

  7. Repeat Steps 2 and 5 for each gear.

    Note: Always shift the transmission back to NEUTRAL when shifting between FORWARD and REVERSE.

High Idle Check

Note: Due to high torque during the shifting of this transmission, reduce input speed to 400 rpm before shifting into any gear. Re-tighten chains and binders after first shift and monitor during the test.

  1. With the transmission in neutral position, set the input flow to 151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm).

  2. Adjust input rotation to 1750 ± 20 rpm.

  3. Record Clutch Pressures, Lube Pressure, Main Relief Pressure, Controls (out) Pressure, and Lube Flow in Table 10.

  4. Confirm values with Table 9.

  5. Adjust input rotation to 400 ± 20 rpm.

  6. Shift the transmission to Forward 1.

  7. Repeat Steps 2 through 5 for each gear.

    Note: Always shift the transmission back to NEUTRAL when shifting between FORWARD and REVERSE.

Speed Sensor Check

Note: Due to high torque during the shifting of this transmission, reduce input speed to 400 rpm before shifting into any gear. Re-tighten chains and binders after first shift and monitor during the test.

  1. With the transmission in neutral position, set input flow to 151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm).

  2. Adjust input rotation to 400 ± 20 rpm.

  3. Shift the transmission to Forward 1.

  4. Adjust input rotation to 700 ± 20 rpm.

  5. Record Output Speed 1, Output Speed 2, and Intermediate Speed in Table 12.

  6. Confirm values with Table 11.

  7. Adjust input rotation to 400 ± 20 rpm.

  8. Repeat Steps 4 and 7 for each forward position.

Contamination Control

  1. Take an oil sample of the test bench oil supply. Oil contamination must be maximum ISO 16/13.

  2. Record the results in Table 13.

  3. Remove the transmission from the test bench if the test bench oil supply is within specifications.

Transmission Bench Test Data Sheet

Table 5
CATERPILLAR  Transmission Bench Test Data Sheet  Test Date:_______ 
Model:_______
Work Order:_______  Serial No.:_______ 

Harness Test

Table 6
Harness Test  Solenoid 1  Solenoid 2  Solenoid 3  Solenoid 4  Solenoid 5  Solenoid 6 

_______ ohms

_______ ohms 

_______ ohms 

_______ ohms 

_______ ohms 

_______ ohms 

Low Idle Check

Table 7
Low Idle Check
700 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  N  R  F1  F2  F3  F4  F5  F6 
Clutch 1    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)  1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)   
Clutch 2        1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi) 
Clutch 3  1103 ± 69 kPa (160 ± 10 psi)            1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)  1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi) 
Clutch 4          1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)  1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)     
Clutch 5      1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)  1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)         
Clutch 6    1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)             
Lube Pressure  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum  14 kPa (2 psi) Minimum 
Main Relief Pressure  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi)  2620 ± 138 kPa (380 ± 20 psi) 
Controls (out) Pressure  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi)  207 ± 34 kPa (30 ± 5 psi) 
Lube Flow  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm) 
Hp Loss  10 ± 1.5 kW (14 ± 2 hp)  10 ± 1.5 kW (13 ± 2 hp)  7.4 ± 1.5 kW (10 ± 2 hp)  9 ± 1.5 kW (12 ± 2 hp)  13 ± 1.5 kW (17 ± 2 hp)  13 ± 1.5 kW (17 ± 2 hp)  7.4 ± 1.5 kW (10 ± 2 hp)  7.4 ± 1.5 kW (10 ± 2 hp) 

Table 8
Low Idle Check
700 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  N  R  F1  F2  F3  F4  F5  F6 
Clutch 1   
_______ 

_______ 
 
_______ 
 
_______ 
 
Clutch 2       
_______ 
 
_______ 
 
_______ 
Clutch 3 
_______ 
         
_______ 

_______ 
Clutch 4         
_______ 

_______ 
   
Clutch 5     
_______ 

_______ 
       
Clutch 6   
_______ 
           
Lube Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Main Relief Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Controls (out) Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Lube Flow 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Hp Loss 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

High Idle Check

Table 9
High Idle Check
1750 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  N  R  F1  F2  F3  F4  F5  F6 
Clutch 1    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)  1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)   
Clutch 2        1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)    1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi) 
Clutch 3  1103 ± 69 kPa (160 ± 10 psi)            1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi)  1172 ± 69 kPa (170 ± 10 psi) 
Clutch 4          1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)  1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)     
Clutch 5      1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)  1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)         
Clutch 6    1793 ± 69 kPa (260 ± 10 psi)             
Lube Pressure  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum  21 kPa (3 psi) Minimum 
Main Relief Pressure  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi)  2965 ± 138 kPa (430 ± 20 psi) 
Controls (out) Pressure  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi)  345 ± 34 kPa (50 ± 5 psi) 
Lube Flow  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm)  140 ± 4 L/min (37 ± 1 US gpm) 

Table 10
High Idle Check
1750 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  N  R  F1  F2  F3  F4  F5  F6 
Clutch 1   
_______ 

_______ 
 
_______ 
 
_______ 
 
Clutch 2       
_______ 
 
_______ 
 
_______ 
Clutch 3 
_______ 
         
_______ 

_______ 
Clutch 4         
_______ 

_______ 
   
Clutch 5     
_______ 

_______ 
       
Clutch 6   
_______ 
           
Lube Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Main Relief Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Controls (out) Pressure 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
Lube Flow 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

Speed Sensor Check

Table 11
Speed Sensor Check
700 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  Output Speed 1  Output Speed 2  Intermediate Speed 
F1  40 ± 5 Hz  40 ± 5 Hz  340 ± 5 Hz 
F2  138 ± 5 Hz  138 ± 5 Hz  460 ± 5 Hz 
F3  184 ± 5 Hz  184 ± 5 Hz  340 ± 5 Hz 
F4  249 ± 5 Hz  249 ± 5 Hz  460 ± 5 Hz 
F5  340 ± 5 Hz  340 ± 5 Hz  340 ± 5 Hz 
F6  460 ± 5 Hz  460 ± 5 Hz  460 ± 5 Hz 

Table 12
Speed Sensor Check
700 rpm
151 ± 4 L/min (40 ± 1 US gpm) 
Gear  Output Speed 1  Output Speed 2  Intermediate Speed 
F1 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
F2 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
F3 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
F4 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
F5 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 
F6 
_______ 

_______ 

_______ 

Contamination Control

Table 13
ISO Particle Count  Sample the test bench oil supply.
*ISO 4406 is 16/13 or better 
________/________Particle Count 

Table 14






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